Ivan Illich

Verbindungen

• ~ verfasste Selbstbegrenzung
• ~ verfasste Fortschrittsmythen

Beschreibung

Philosoph, u.a. bekannt für Tools for conviviality (1973)

Mehr lesen:

• Dealing With Our Own Shit: A Conversation With Gustavo Esteva, ein tolles Interview von Dougald Hine mit einem Weggefährten von Ivan Illich
• weitere Texte von Dougald Hine mit Illich-Bezug
• Wikipedia

Auftritte:

• Part Moon, Part Travelling Salesman: Conversations with David Cayley (1989), eine tolle Radiosendung in 5 Teilen (Achtung: alle Teile zusammen gut 4,5 h)

Zitat:

I have never doubted that – today, more than ever – a “monastic” ambience is the prerequisite to the independence needed for a historically based indictment of society.

Super Internetfund dazu (von Dougald Hine):

... Dougald brings in a PhD thesis by the Brazilian scholar Neto Leão, ‘Vernacular Forms of Living: Thinking After Ivan Illich’.

‘To hell with sustainability!’ Neto declares, echoing Illich's pronouncement, ‘To hell with good intentions!’

Among the framings that Neto draws from Illich is his emphasis on the necessity of setting social limits: before we even get to ecological limits, our capacity to live well together requires us to make collective choices that include saying no to certain possibilities, technologies and forms of ownership. ‘Natural thresholds are generally crossed after social limits are breached,’ he writes.

It’s interesting to set this alongside Kate Raworth’s influential Doughnut Economics, which maps ‘planetary boundaries’ together with ‘social boundaries’.

The difference is that, in Raworth’s mapping, the social boundaries are presented in terms of a minimum of basic needs, rather than a limit that it is unwise to exceed.